I have not seen any mainstream publishers claiming the iPad is not a "Personal computer". JeremyWJ ( talk) 16:42, 29 April 2010 (UTC) I think that is a sane conclusion, but am sure it will be challenged. Reading through that, and all other things not-withstanding, I conclude myself the iPad to be considered a PC. I figured the best place, assuming accuracy, on this would be to reference Wikipedia itself on this page Personal Computer. #Best mac cleaner by leo laporte PcOtherwise, especially with this ongoing debate, it is against Wikipedia policy to state that the device is a PC in the article. If one is provided then the article could/should state that the device is a PC. In order for the article to claim the device as being a PC we need a reliable, factual, reference for the such. Instead I'm going to jump right into Wikipedia policy on this issue as it stands now. I'm not going to go into a debate here on if it's a PC or not. #Best mac cleaner by leo laporte softwareThat the library of available programs only contains programs that are checked for absence of malware or software of dubious quality is another matter. You don't need a "computer operator" for that. #Best mac cleaner by leo laporte installWell, then the iPad is a personal computer, because you can install any available program (specifically written for the platform) yourself. Quick test to tell if something is a Personal Computer: Is the person who owns it able to and is expected to select the programs that run on it by themselves without having some gatekeeper in the way? If the answer is no then it is a locked down programmable device (like a Wii) rather than a PC. And, you know what? They are right! "its something else altogether", but you can operate it yourself! Mahjongg ( talk) 22:21, 28 April 2010 (UTC) I predict we will hear more about people that claim the iPad "isn't something". This was one reason I didn't like the article to link to tablet PC. So because with PC's you could, and with the iPad not "its not a PC", the reasoning goes, because a PC can be used "without intervening computer operator", and Apple is seen as the "intervening computer operator". #Best mac cleaner by leo laporte freeThe most creative one yet I saw was that "its not a personal computer because you are not totally free to put any sh*t on it you want, just like you were not free to run anything you liked on a mainframe, because the "guys in white coats" would not let you". I'm afraid there are a lot of people who bear a grudge or something against the iPad, some of them claim its not a "personal computer", for various reasons. I'd say it was and this has recently been removed from the article. HereToHelp ( talk to me) 20:46, (UTC) iPad a PC
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